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Untidy state (4)

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'untidy state' is the definition.
(state of being untidy)

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(Other definitions for mess that I've seen before include "State of confusion or untidiness" , "Communal dining room" , "Service dining-area" , "Army canteen - shambles" , "Military dining room" .)

I've seen this clue in The Daily Mail, The Star Tribune, The Sun, the Universal, the USA Today, The Telegraph, The Mirror, the Newsday, the Newsday.com, the King Feature Syndicate, The Times, The Independent and the Evening Standard.
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