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A perpetually discouraging thing to say (5)

Ross

I believe the answer is:

never

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'discouraging thing to say' is the definition.
I can't tell whether this definition defines the answer.

'a perpetually' is the wordplay.
I cannot really understand how this works, but
'perpetually' could be 'ever' (I've seen this in another clue) and 'ever' is found in the answer.
A single letter 'n' remains which might be clued in a way I don't understand.
This may be the basis of the clue (or it may be nonsense).

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(Other definitions for never that I've seen before include "At no time in the past or future" , "Strong negative" , "No way" , "when pigs fly" , "' - - Say - - Again': Bond film" .)

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